====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT MODELING AD HOC TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDA http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ Mailing list: ibis-interconn@freelists.org ====================================================================== Next Meeting Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9 AM US Pacific Time Telephone Bridge Passcode 916-356-2663 5 721-4349 Use the LiveMeeting Links in Outlook or the information below: Meeting ID: 364e7c772fc1440b8a7a58a0d4cd09e8 Entry Code: 5J4u04y7I8m Location: meet:sip:michael.mirmak@intel.com;gruu;opaque=app:conf:focus:id:364e7c772fc1440b8a7a58a0d4cd09e8%3Fconf-key=5J4u04y7I8m Agenda: - Call for patents - Opens - Touchstone 2.0/3.0 Updated Text, Continued * Mixed-mode support ====================================================================== Minutes from May 28: Attendees: ---------- (* denotes present) Agilent - Radek Biernacki*, John Moore, Ken Wong Ansoft - Denis Soldo* Cadence Design Systems - Terry Jernberg*, Brad Griffin* Green Streak Programs - Lynne Green Hewlett-Packard - Rob Elliott Intel - Michael Mirmak* Mentor Graphics Corp. - John Angulo*, Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov* Micron Technology - Randy Wolff* Sigrity - Sam Chitwood, Raymond Y. Chen, Tao Su SiSoft - Walter Katz Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross* ======================================================================== No patents were announced. Michael reviewed his summary of the on-line discussion of mixed-mode formats, plus a preliminary list of rules and an example; the presentation will be revised "live" during the weekly meetings. Participants commented that the example text does not imply any particular diagram or pictoral representation. Further, the picture given in the presentation does not correspond to the most clear arrangements of ports to illustrate the example. Further, the use of the letter "x" may be misleading. The matrices themselves are arranged according to the table of ports spelled out before the matrix data in the file; the table is both a row vector and a column vector, determining the placement of the elements in the resulting matrix. Both Brad and Radek suggested that single-ended data might not be required in Touchstone 2.0 files; mixed-mode data alone would be sufficient. Bob agreed, stating that only one matrix -- single-ended or mixed-mode -- should be required in the file. The discussion will continue with additional rules in the next meeting. ======================================================================== Team Objectives: 1) complete ICM-IBIS linking BIRD and any associated changes to the ICM specification 2) update the ICM specification, if needed, to clarify the mapping of ICM nodes to S-parameter ports 3) complete a specification for "Touchstone Plus" or similar industry-standard definition for Touchstone-like files, to include complex impedance references, removal of limits on the maximum number of ports and per-port impedance references